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Post by Benjaman on Jan 20, 2016 14:10:55 GMT
thats a good post grue- also being proactive about things and not just sitting and taking it is hard but worthwhile
in your instance, come in vent more. play vid games with us, or talk more in the facebook/skype chat, etc
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2016 14:30:21 GMT
ive battled depression for a solid ten years now, and my breakthrough was accepting the fact that it was something that was going to be with me for the rest of my life. something about thinking it was something that would be 'fixed' as long as a i do [thing] was destroying me. now i ride out the low times, knowing that they will pass. the ups may be brief, but so are the downs. ive slowly learned ways to cope and to take advantage of the times i feel good.
i doubt any of that helps, but thats the issue with this shit. theres no one solution, and people handle things differently. i was lucky enough that i was vocal enough about ending my life early on that people stopped me. i think my fear of death won over the fear of living just enough to make it. others arent so lucky
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2016 14:32:18 GMT
definitely seek help though. and dont settle when it comes to talking to professionals. if you feel like youre not getting what you want out of them, or if you just dont like them, go to another one. just dont give up. try everything
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Post by 410757864530 DEAD COPS on Jan 20, 2016 16:12:06 GMT
to be tbh i don't care about people when the easiest thing they have wrong with them psychologically is anxiety or depression like u can go to a psychiatrist and get prescribed medication that actually works and also like, not get arrested and willingly institutionalize yourself and face no psychiatric abuse. so as far as mental illness goes u lucked out
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Post by 410757864530 DEAD COPS on Jan 20, 2016 16:13:38 GMT
if u have the ability to go to a psychiatrist and not have them immediately threaten you with long term institutionalizations if u stop coming then ur fortunate as hell my guy
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Post by Tempest on Jan 21, 2016 1:51:07 GMT
i get what i consider to be pretty serious bouts of depression sometimes, though they seem to affect me in different ways than some people. i've never been suicidal, but i get these stretches of a couple weeks where nothing just seems to matter at all to me. i'll sleep for like 12 hours a night and always be tired, listless, ignore friends and work and stuff because it just doesn't feel like it matters. it's been happening to me a lot more with extreme stress over school, and i'd kind of like to go to a psych at least a couple times and see if i just need some pills or something, but i can't afford dat shit.
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Post by 410757864530 DEAD COPS on Jan 21, 2016 2:54:03 GMT
does it seem to come and go w seasons because with you living so far north it could be one of the things treatable w like a special type of sun lamp or w/e
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Post by Tempest on Jan 21, 2016 3:41:00 GMT
i never really paid much attention to it but it could very likely be seasonal affective disorder now that you mention it
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Post by 410757864530 DEAD COPS on Jan 21, 2016 4:31:23 GMT
it's v common in northern altitudes u should try to keep track of when it happens and mention that to a doctor if u end up going. a gp can diagnose you and give you ssris but i wouldn't recommend it because ssris can be genuinely dangerous and very bad for your physical and mental health but if it's what u gotta do
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Post by Tempest on Jan 21, 2016 4:47:21 GMT
yeah idk maybe i will i'd prefer to stay off any sort of drugs that alter things just because it's a thing that makes me uncomfortable but i mean, if it's gonna help me handle some of this stress from school and shit.
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Post by sanlands on Jan 21, 2016 4:49:19 GMT
Not to mention countless hour of aganizing pain and horrible diseases. not sure if you've addressed this in the past, but what kinds of pain/diseases are you experiencing?
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Post by 410757864530 DEAD COPS on Jan 21, 2016 5:20:41 GMT
ssris don't really alter your emotions or behavior or personality WHEN THEY WORK. they just make things easier to deal with. but when they don't work they can give u psychotic breaks and brain damage which is why i would never ever recommend getting them from a gp. it's almost guaranteed to billy-goat u up worse if anything else is wrong which i didn't find out until i ended up in jail and a psych ward
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Post by 410757864530 DEAD COPS on Jan 21, 2016 5:21:11 GMT
but when they do work they can be really helpful and u don't have to worry about them really changing who u are at all
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Post by Special Agent Dr. Dana Scully on Jan 21, 2016 5:45:54 GMT
yes i am on zoloft and conveniently i had minimal side effects when adjusting and they work as desired would recommend
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Post by N4-PR on Jan 21, 2016 19:48:59 GMT
You say that as well but of the group of friends I have, none of them but one even made any attempt to help through my depression. What are the sort of things they could do that would help? My mate (pretty much the only friend I see with regularity these days) is going through a tough time now and has severe anxiety and maybe depression. I'm billy-goating hopeless at being any sort of emotional support so I just try to hang out with him still and listen to his shit, giving detached advice to move the conversation along. Just being there can work wonders for everyone, listening can go a long way. But since we live in a society that wants to ignore problems in life, they completely shut out any negativity coming from people they know/love. hey diehard, a couple things: a) when you're depressed, it's normal to feel like noone around you gives a shit. now that *could* be the case, but also bear in mind that what you might be experiencing is a symptom of your mental issues, rather than actual neglect. b) that being said, keeping distance from someon with depression might actually be a good thing. there are different kinds of support, and often the kind of support that people want is not the support that they actually need. furthermore, the latter is very difficult to understand without actual professional help, which is where psychologists and group therapy would come in if people could afford it. this applies to thetool's post aswell: sometimes people who are depressed tend to choose dragging those around them to their level rather than rising themselves up to everyone else's standard. I guess this is why psychologists insist that coming out of depression is a personal struggle, rather than a social one. it's like when someone is drowning and you reach to help them, but their instinct is to drown you instead to keep themselves afloat. or something. misery loves company etc I guess what I'm saying is that people might seem distant not because they don't care, but because they're protecting themselves from being dragged down. there's also of course the very real scenario that they simply don't give a billy-goat but what I'm saying is that there are other explanations to what you're experiencing, be it because your mental condition is making you see things a certain way that doesn't correspond to reality, or that your friends and family are trying to keep a distance because it can actually be more healthy for everyone that way c) your doctors are morons or there's something absurdly wrong in the way you're coming across to them. it's been years of misdiagnosing, how th billy-goat can't they get it right? now I'm normally pro-euthanasia, but in your case it really looks like some severe medical misconduct is causing you to suffer, not to straight accuse them of malpractice. even if they came and told you your pain is irreversible, their credibility is so far down the gutter at this point that I can't see how anyone should believe them. in this scenario, suicide is a dumbass move. now of course this is easy to say as i comfortably sit here pain-free, but it's how shit is presenting itself from how I see it a) no, I have been diagnosed with depression b) No it isn't, you might think you're "giving them space" but in reality it comes off as pushing the person away. There is a lot of support for these types of things, I have tried many, gone through many therapists, psychologists, medicines, etc. When it seems like people are dragging you down to their level, its is a plead for help. Ignoring them worsens it. No, it's if someone is drowning and you start yelling "what are you talking about, the water is all in your imagination!" Being condescending isn't helpful in any case. That is a terrible reason and anyone who thinks that is a terribly selfish person. There is a situation where they don't give a billy-goat, but if that was the case why am I friends with this person? If it's family, I would (and have) done the complete opposite. "Oh shit, this guys house is on fire. Welp, not my problem" c)I can't name all the practitioners that have failed to do their jobs properly. I was in the hospital for 3 days this visit and I had 4 nurses, 3 doctors and 2 assistants billy-goat up something horrendously. One of them gave me x8 the dose of a medication I only recently started. I am not coming across wrong to them, my parents are usually there to make sure they don't billy-goat up my care or when I go to a doctor. Medicine is a very finicky thing, if you have a long list of symptoms and one of this is so unnoticeable, it could be something completely different. These cases have happened to me but since the american legal system wouldn't let me sue unless I had a long lasting injury, nothing could happen. But now with all this bullshit recently I can probably sue the people who started it all, but I am not sure if the statute of limitations applies to "special cases". Suicide is an option because the doctor that oversaw me in the hospital this week told me straight "You cannot work in this condition, you cannot exercise that hard, you cannot drive, you cannot practically do anything that involves you breaking a sweat." So not only am I going to be confined to doing nothing with the rest of me life, I am going to do it in excruciating pain. thats a good post grue- also being proactive about things and not just sitting and taking it is hard but worthwhile in your instance, come in vent more. play vid games with us, or talk more in the facebook/skype chat, etc I do, I was kyaking the day before I got hospitalized. I have been more active this year than I have ever been. I do as much as I can, but I feel like shit and don't want to attempt to go in groups from the incredible amount of anxiety, intimidation and depression ive battled depression for a solid ten years now, and my breakthrough was accepting the fact that it was something that was going to be with me for the rest of my life. something about thinking it was something that would be 'fixed' as long as a i do [thing] was destroying me. now i ride out the low times, knowing that they will pass. the ups may be brief, but so are the downs. ive slowly learned ways to cope and to take advantage of the times i feel good. i doubt any of that helps, but thats the issue with this shit. theres no one solution, and people handle things differently. i was lucky enough that i was vocal enough about ending my life early on that people stopped me. i think my fear of death won over the fear of living just enough to make it. others arent so lucky As much as I would to, there is nothing fixing my medical history and all the constant pressure all around me pushing harder and harder with each coming month. You discussing it does help don't worry. definitely seek help though. and dont settle when it comes to talking to professionals. if you feel like youre not getting what you want out of them, or if you just dont like them, go to another one. just dont give up. try everything Professional help is literally shit and there is only so much I can try. My insurance only covers so many of them before I run out of ones to try. I would try talking to my parents about it and the first thing they said was "omg we need to hide the guns". Not "Hey, I'm sorry to hear this I know how you feel, maybe we can try going to group therapy together etc etc." They're the type of people that think depression doesn't exist. I have tried all the professional routes, they just didn't help. it's v common in northern altitudes u should try to keep track of when it happens and mention that to a doctor if u end up going. a gp can diagnose you and give you ssris but i wouldn't recommend it because ssris can be genuinely dangerous and very bad for your physical and mental health but if it's what u gotta do I have tried 5 different kinds and all they do is make you feel like shit. Sure, doctors say that you have to find the right one for you, but if I have to feel worse than I currently am for the period of 3 years switching meds just to find one that makes me want to be happy would probably make me want to kill myself even more. Not to mention countless hour of aganizing pain and horrible diseases. not sure if you've addressed this in the past, but what kinds of pain/diseases are you experiencing? - heels never grew properly so I can for long periods of time
- billy-goated up my right hand so I can make a fist properly
- spine is all kinds of billy-goated up
- seizures from a brain surgery to drain puss from my skull that formed from a tooth infection
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