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Post by 410757864530 DEAD COPS on Feb 7, 2016 3:58:07 GMT
im just gonna remind you that you're saying all this for the sole reason that i refuse to vote for a candidate i don't like that goes against my politics. really let that sink in how much you're overreacting right now especially as a billy-goating australian and especially because i am very very very far from the only person doing this
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Post by 410757864530 DEAD COPS on Feb 7, 2016 3:59:02 GMT
im still stunned that you're actually mad about a group of people giving free food to poor and homeless people in the city of Detroit that says enough about your politics imo
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Post by 410757864530 DEAD COPS on Feb 7, 2016 3:59:54 GMT
"those darn hippies with their long hair and vegetables! improving quality of life for homeless people and homeless youth in particular" literally you in this thread. i think i have an uncle like you
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Post by 410757864530 DEAD COPS on Feb 7, 2016 4:02:14 GMT
"anarchists don't do anything" "here are a few things we do which have a tangible impact on our communities" "well you have side bangs and your friends eat vegetables" i can't get over that
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Post by Special Agent Dr. Dana Scully on Feb 7, 2016 4:04:12 GMT
if that is the extent of what you think needs to be done then you are very stupid. i dont give a shit what they do for poor and homeless people in detroit that has nothing to do with me and it isn't offering a real alternative to the political system. so if you're going to call bullshit on the whole thing and say sanders is as bad as any other and actually insult everyone who believes he can engender actual change in the american system then you need to offer an alternative or you need to shut the billy-goat up
and if you appreciated the extent of american imperialist hegemony you would know that the president of the united states is probably more important for australia than who our shitty prime minister is so yes i do care and i have a valid reason for taking an interest
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Post by 410757864530 DEAD COPS on Feb 7, 2016 4:09:38 GMT
good thing i said that's all that needs to be done! "i don't give a shit... it has nothing to do with me" there we go, that's the selfishness ive been talking about in bernie supporters all along.
would you like me to detail the proposed alternative with bullet points and a convenient outline for you? as long as morons like you continue to refuse to even bother to educate themselves on the alternatives that DO IN FACT EXIST, and keep allowing war criminals to be elected into office, you're he billy-goating problem, not me. don't be a billy-goating moron.
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Post by 410757864530 DEAD COPS on Feb 7, 2016 4:11:31 GMT
and uh, yeah im gonna call anyone who genuinely believes that any type of significant revolutionary change will come from an elected official stupid. and im going to insult anyone who believes that anything less than revolutionary changes are necessary. that's liberal bullshit and it doesn't take more than a minutes thought to realize that it doesn't actually work in the working class's favor, ever, because no politician is working class and no politician cares about these people. so go billy-goat yourself?
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Post by 410757864530 DEAD COPS on Feb 7, 2016 4:13:23 GMT
but that i don't give a shit, it has nothing to do with me mentality is the same mentality that keeps getting people elected into office who will gladly murder women and children so long as it gives them a bigger paycheck. why bother to give a shit, it has nothing to do with you, it's not like human lives are being lost due to the decisions people are making, who cares about those dirty foreign people anyway right? vote in the warmonger who voted in favor of the afghanistan war, he might give me free community college
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2016 4:18:58 GMT
Here's a question, what about north Korea and their tests they keep doing. Do the candidates mention any of that stuff? I know we tend to get mixed up in shit we shouldn't but is this something we should?
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Post by 410757864530 DEAD COPS on Feb 7, 2016 4:21:11 GMT
the problems with north korea are mostly internal and human rights related and the threat they pose to america is minimal but bernie claims they're our "biggest threat" bc war mongering
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Post by Patty O'Furniture on Feb 7, 2016 4:36:58 GMT
ok, except it's literally exactly as effective as joking about a war mongering capitalist online. that's the whole thing. and there are a lot of direct action leftist groups, anarchist groups especially, there's a lot of practical application for example in detroit an anarchist collective that provides fresh vegetables and housing to homeless people and other victims of capitalism, leftist groups that get together and make hats and scarves and gloves to donate to a center for homeless lgbt youth, standing by protests to provide medical aid to people wounded or pepper sprayed by police. to think that all anarchists do is sit on the internet and make fun of liberals is really, really stupid bc to tell u the truth im doing a lot more for my community than someone who votes for sanders and pats themselves on the back for it and i didn't... say anything about social media what are you even talking about now How is any of that mutually exclusive with participating in the democratic process? Your stance against the state is one thing, but thats useless outside of congregating like-minded individuals for community based initiatives. What impact does it have on the political landscape? What I was saying is that even people who are not registered in the American voting system are gaining an influence through social media, so even if your vote as a Michigan resident is rendered worthless, you can still participate in campaigning for or against any candidate you would prefer to see/not see in office. But your contribution to these discussions has no purpose other than to dissuade potentially left-leaning voters. Even though you've decided to abstain from voting because Nothing Matters™, you're still trying your damnedest to influence the political discourse. I just don't know how or why. If youre opting out of the American voting system because every candidate is equally terrible, then it doesn't make sense to inject yourself into discussions purely to whip up hysteria. Especially when it's done so disproportionately against a single candidate.
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Post by 410757864530 DEAD COPS on Feb 7, 2016 4:44:39 GMT
participating is upholding and being complicit in it. i refuse to do that and hope that enough other people will also refuse to do that for actual political reasons as opposed to apathy and make those reasons heard enough to actually inspire people to do something. im attacking one target specifically because im pretty sure i don't need to tell you guys why clinton or cruz or trump are terrible it like kind of goes without saying. but people saying bernie is an anti war socialist who stands up for the working class is blatant misinformation and people genuinely believe it. no one worth convincing actually believes that trump is gonna ~make america great again
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Post by 410757864530 DEAD COPS on Feb 7, 2016 4:51:40 GMT
and yeah, dissuading all voters is... kinda what im going for with that
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2016 4:58:31 GMT
the problems with north korea are mostly internal and human rights related and the threat they pose to america is minimal but bernie claims they're our "biggest threat" bc war mongering hm. i dont know too much about all of the candidates, only what i hear. while i dont consider myself one way or the other, some of the stuff that bernie says i agree with. Trump, i think its all madness. so does that make me lean "left" or whatever? I don't know. I know its hard to be truly in the middle. Anyway, isn't trump kind of in the war mongering category as well? i do find it interesting how i dont hear any war mongering stuff with bernie sanders. thinking about it, i havent explicitly heard anyone make mention of that claim for any of the candidates.
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Post by 410757864530 DEAD COPS on Feb 7, 2016 5:00:01 GMT
let me go ahead and tell you literally all of them are right along with most presidents in recent history
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