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Post by i'm very angry on Aug 10, 2015 20:39:20 GMT
>i'm sure u are involved in more real ways to push for police to stop killing people it's a petty way to try to invalidate what I say, and for further reference yes I am, at least Im trying to i'm not one to generally retort with 'what are u doing' because i'm not in the position to but i certainly do when people feel like criticising protesters for the way they choose to express their urgency for change, idk why u don't realise how extremely snob that is and how it comes from a position of privilege
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Post by i'm very angry on Aug 10, 2015 20:40:02 GMT
not everyone has the luxury of time and patience and good manners or well timed intervention that coddle all of ur expectations of how things should be brought to change, some people need to act now and violently
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Post by Assbong420 ~The Weeder~ on Aug 10, 2015 20:42:29 GMT
and u're not listening it's not about bernie sanders' history in the civil rights movement, it's about his campaign now, they wanted him to focus more on racial based violence and not just flat class and he is now doing so so what on earth is ur huge beef with it my huge beef is social movements that focus on appearence rather than content, on bullet points rather than content, on hashtags rather than content, on eposition rather than content his campain runs on a heavy social justice basis by focusing on materil reforms. polie brutality, healthcare, education, these are ll "class" approaches that he chose to strike the general inequaliety in the USA. the criticisms that run on "he's not saying what we want him to say" are not valid, therefore, he is adressing those issues, demonstrably. i pin down most outlash agains bs as coming from inconsequential identity politics movements than acual organized social structures. i don't like it, but that' not the issue, the issue is to claim things that aren't there. i could probably write a wall of criticism at bernie, starting with his strategy, but i really dont like to see shit being stirred out of issues that are flat out wrong. specially when they themselves serve an agenda. also i may be getting too old for this shit
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Post by Assbong420 ~The Weeder~ on Aug 10, 2015 20:44:00 GMT
>i'm sure u are involved in more real ways to push for police to stop killing people it's a petty way to try to invalidate what I say, and for further reference yes I am, at least Im trying to i'm not one to generally retort with 'what are u doing' because i'm not in the position to but i certainly do when people feel like criticising protesters for the way they choose to express their urgency for change, idk why u don't realise how extremely snob that is and how it comes from a position of privilege saying it comes from a position of privilege implies a whole lot of assumptions but my beef with "privilege" discourse should probably be left to another discussion
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Post by i'm very angry on Aug 10, 2015 20:48:33 GMT
the internet is a huge part of this era and revolution, change and protest necessarily come through it and not because of that they are invalid
a bunch of protesters on a real stage is not hashtagging, it's being there, the content is 'stop killing us' and it's really unfair that u feel the need to invalidate them on a such a serious situation just because it doesn't agree with ur idea of a revolution
so he has been saying all they wanted him to say all along but they just felt they would protest him anyway because they didn't know how to spend their evenings and the article u urself linked that points out how he has introduced more of racial inequality in his speeches after the protests are not valid either ok then idk what we're talking about
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Post by i'm very angry on Aug 10, 2015 20:50:17 GMT
i'm not one to generally retort with 'what are u doing' because i'm not in the position to but i certainly do when people feel like criticising protesters for the way they choose to express their urgency for change, idk why u don't realise how extremely snob that is and how it comes from a position of privilege saying it comes from a position of privilege implies a whole lot of assumptions but my beef with "privilege" discourse should probably be left to another discussion u're not in danger to be killed by police just because u're black and walking/driving/running so yes u are in a position of privilege, and the fact that u have beef with privilege means u have no understanding of how it or the concept of intersectionality works and i don't have the strength or the will for these discussions either
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Post by Patty O'Furniture on Aug 10, 2015 20:52:40 GMT
clearly narcissa's been indoctrinated by the black illuminati and will go as far as to excuse the actions of this woman (aka black hitler)
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Post by i'm very angry on Aug 10, 2015 20:53:15 GMT
i'm a woman and that makes oppressed in a whole lot of ways but i'm also a white able-bodied woman and that makes me privileged in a lot of other ways, being privileged doesn't mean u're not disandvantaged and it's not a hard concept to grasp if u're willing to go beyond popular discourses or trolling
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Post by i'm very angry on Aug 10, 2015 20:55:03 GMT
clearly i'm never to be taken seriously expect when i'm not serious in this place so why do i even bother idk
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Post by risbolla on Aug 10, 2015 20:56:06 GMT
lol
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Post by 410757864530 DEAD COPS on Aug 10, 2015 21:09:48 GMT
i remember someone saying that it was good news for bernie to get interrupted like that because everyone knows no other candidate even pretends to give a billy-goat
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Post by 410757864530 DEAD COPS on Aug 10, 2015 21:12:17 GMT
but its not like it matters because like i said, no revolutionary becomes a politician and no politician actually cares about people
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Post by 410757864530 DEAD COPS on Aug 10, 2015 21:15:51 GMT
grue im interested in your "privilege" discourse bc imo privilege implies that its given by some kind of neutral third party to a select number of people when in reality its the end result of social hierarchies that are consistently upheld by the people at the top of them i guess my issue is more semantic than anything but the concept has been destroyed by people with no concept of how power actually works or how or why its distributed in the ways that it is
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Post by 410757864530 DEAD COPS on Aug 10, 2015 21:19:59 GMT
narcissa you seem just a little stuck in 2013 didiscourse which isn't necessarily bad but you need to understand when debating the concept of privilege that its not nuanced enough to be useful and relies too much on identity politics and like i said before, relies too much on the idea of a neutral third party granting privileges and disadvantages to certain groups
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Post by i'm very angry on Aug 10, 2015 21:26:13 GMT
we can use any word u prefer, when i say privilege i mean the structure of power and social advantages that certain people have over other people, it's not an absolute and it has various facets which is why intersectionality is key to having these discussions, ur etymology exactly i just lack the fluidity to say it any better than i already have
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