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Post by 410757864530 DEAD COPS on Dec 3, 2015 12:50:00 GMT
or are you one of the "no no see it HELPS women when i have sex with them that they don't want and are coerced into consenting to " people
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Post by Assbong420 ~The Weeder~ on Dec 3, 2015 12:55:03 GMT
but you STILL assume you know more about people's lives experiences than the people who have lived them, you still think you know better, you still think that it's not exploitative and those people can't feel particularly harmed because you've read so much leftist theory right? that totally gives you an insight into the lives of other people. and it's totally just the same as any other form of capitalist violence right? no matter the fact that it's an industry that is primarily women and one that is primarily harmful and extremely physically dangerous all the time to women, there's no intersection worth considering there, not when it would have to cause you to reevaluate your ideas based purely in theory good god are you ever a brocialist here's why i dont argue with you: you continuously misrepresent whatever argument you think is being made (yes it's a double whammy, nothing new here) a) the fact that i refuse to presume about people's life experiences is exactly what draws me back from assuming pratical cases in a vacuum. b) which was, in fact, what I was reffering to. tweek asked if visiting prostitutes is unethical and my reply was that it is not, in the sense that it is coherent with the comodification of sex, which makes prostitution not only a natural part of the market, but also about as ethical as the market can be. in a vacuum. which is where i was arguing from. c) to which tweek replied that I was being "willfully ignorant of the industry" and from that standpoint, there is wilful ignorance on every industry. rotten to the core on every industry. by which i implied his argument is stupid and misses the point i originally made. d) you, you continually draw every argument to yourself. no niki, I will not discuss you, or your personal experience, because all you are to me is a moniker online, and I can't possibly argue on your personal experience. you think that gains you an upper hand, but note how I don't use my shit to argue here, and that's beccause it's pointless. yes I ignore you, because you don't matter, because we're not talking about you. which all in all yes, that makes me backwards, in the sense that I refuse personalized politics. I am a conservative in the sense that I will discuss ideas, which are open, rather than experiences, which are closed. I understand how that's how current leftism is, because it's easy and mindless probably, but I won't fall into it.
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Post by Assbong420 ~The Weeder~ on Dec 3, 2015 12:56:16 GMT
so yes, I ignore and will continue ignoring whatever string of consciousness comes out of your fingers because really, it's a waste of time
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Post by 410757864530 DEAD COPS on Dec 3, 2015 12:58:28 GMT
why are you saying "well OBVIOUSLY i meant in a vacuum " when no one else did? no one was asking about in a vacuum. they were asking about in the real world where sex workers are raped and beaten and murdered by men like you who see nothing ethically wrong with what they're doing. and whether you want to discuss me directly or not, you are, you're discussing my personal experience, this discussion is about something i have personal experience with and yes that does give me the upper hand when it comes to "is it ethical"
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Post by 410757864530 DEAD COPS on Dec 3, 2015 12:59:31 GMT
just like a billy-goatin brocialist to take a discussion that is clearly meant to be about the real life consequences of something and speak about it as if it were in a vacuum. it's because men don't see women as people no matter how radical they paint themselves to be
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Post by Assbong420 ~The Weeder~ on Dec 3, 2015 13:02:12 GMT
why are you saying "well OBVIOUSLY i meant in a vacuum " when no one else did? but in the perspective of a market transaction, the technical para-human perspective, there's no difference between the different representations of "pleasing others with your body", the work relation and value production is technically the same, and imo that's all that matters for it to exist regardless of the scope of law because that's exactly what I wrote. the rest of the post was an emphasys on how this changes with personal morals and ethics, and how that can point in every direction
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Post by Assbong420 ~The Weeder~ on Dec 3, 2015 13:03:20 GMT
just like a billy-goatin brocialist to take a discussion that is clearly meant to be about the real life consequences of something and speak about it as if it were in a vacuum. it's because men don't see women as people no matter how radical they paint themselves to be that discussion waas happening nowhere but in your head i was replying to a direct question from tweek you are not important
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Post by 410757864530 DEAD COPS on Dec 3, 2015 13:06:15 GMT
i know what you wrote im asking why, besides the fact that you don't see women as people, are you discussing this in the context of it being in a vacuum and not the real life implications of it to the point where you would call the rape and murder of women ethical? and yes, sex with coerced consent for any reason be it safety or financial related or anything else, is rape. do you really not see the commodification of human beings as an especially heinous thing are you that terrible of a person
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Post by 410757864530 DEAD COPS on Dec 3, 2015 13:07:06 GMT
just like a billy-goatin brocialist to take a discussion that is clearly meant to be about the real life consequences of something and speak about it as if it were in a vacuum. it's because men don't see women as people no matter how radical they paint themselves to be that discussion waas happening nowhere but in your head i was replying to a direct question from tweek you are not important i didn't say it was a discussion i said you don't see women as people, because men don't give a shit about women. generally when people ask if a real life industry is ethical, they mean in real life.
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Post by Assbong420 ~The Weeder~ on Dec 3, 2015 13:09:14 GMT
i know what you wrote im asking why, besides the fact that you don't see women as people, are you discussing this in the context of it being in a vacuum and not the real life implications of it to the point where you would call the rape and murder of women ethical? and yes, sex with coerced consent for any reason be it safety or financial related or anything else, is rape. do you really not see the commodification of human beings as an especially heinous thing are you that terrible of a person there's no besides, it's really just not seeing women as people
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Post by Tyler Legrand on Dec 3, 2015 13:30:43 GMT
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Post by Alienator on Dec 3, 2015 14:54:21 GMT
so are prostitutes travel and leisure or lifestyle and health
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Post by Puggalo4Lyfe on Dec 3, 2015 15:03:51 GMT
prostitutes are real human beans too grue
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