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Piracy
Jan 3, 2016 15:35:39 GMT
Post by Assbong420 ~The Weeder~ on Jan 3, 2016 15:35:39 GMT
I still think piracy should be legal but the truth is I pirate progressively less. I guess it correlates with availability: I don't feel like browsing through piracy websites for a particular album when so many bands are putting their stuff on bandcamp, for example. I play free-to-play games, and the other games I play that aren't free-to-play I have bought, for the most part. The only thing I truly pirate are tv episodes, and those very rarely because I don't watch very often.
The police are coming down on pirates across europe, specially in the big countries - I was talking to a friend who's working in Germany, and he says a lot of people are being caught and paying fines. He streams from websites to watch shows and doesn't download, claims it's the downloads that are getting people into trouble, but I very much doubt it - or if it's the case, new policies are sure to come up eventually.
Anywho this is my story. I feel like the nature of piracy has changed a lot since I first stepped into the internet. Piracy was a given, as much a part of the internet as memes were. I find that the idea that anything and everything is meant to be shared is now left to a very niche few, and my perception of the "online consensus", that is the people who are vocal on the web, is of protecting content creators and supporting anti-piracy measures as long as they don't infringe on free speech.
Also I'm lazy and don't feel like researching how to proxy correctly to go by undetected, so the disincentive to pirate works effectively on me. I'm increasingly drifting towards traditional media (no, I'm not buying albums online, billy-goat that) and my online activity is much more restricted to this forum, facebook and news. Because of all of this, I feel considerably less about piracy as I did in the past. It's strange because even though I'm against it being a crime, I feel like it's become about "the community" self-policing that kind of behaviour, and as such I'm stepping back because I no longer feel like my mindset correlates with everyone else's.
What's your story?
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Piracy
Jan 3, 2016 15:41:13 GMT
Post by risbolla on Jan 3, 2016 15:41:13 GMT
norway goverment block certain website i cant type orm y isp will tell me to the goverment black list but it begin on ''t'' nd ends on ''hepiratebay'' so now if i want to go on this website i have to use international proxy lol
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Piracy
Jan 3, 2016 15:49:32 GMT
Post by risbolla on Jan 3, 2016 15:49:32 GMT
goverments 1000 years to late to block that site neway noone even use it nemore nd im already blacklisting from the doujins i have dl before im gonna put a string on my computer that i can pull to magnet my hdd when interpol knock my door down hahaha now thats what i call free speech motherfkers !!!!
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Piracy
Jan 3, 2016 16:13:31 GMT
Post by Hans Moleman on Jan 3, 2016 16:13:31 GMT
i like torrentz.eu to use for all my movie downloading needs
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Piracy
Jan 3, 2016 17:52:48 GMT
Post by N4-PR on Jan 3, 2016 17:52:48 GMT
I used to torrent a lot of music. Probably close to a terabyte of music. This was all in 2009-2010.
As of the last 2 years I have just been using Youtube because they have all the music I like anyway
Movies, TV shows and vidya I usually torrent still, but if I like it enough I buy it. I watch a lot of movies and usually buy about 10% of them.
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Piracy
Jan 3, 2016 18:34:36 GMT
Post by Assbong420 ~The Weeder~ on Jan 3, 2016 18:34:36 GMT
The shitty thing about being outside of the main capitalist hub is that I dont get free music on youtube, it's blocked in my country because they don't bother to pay the copyright fees. Which means we don't get hulu or netflix or whatever else. With shows, music and games still being sold at full price regardless, it's no wonder a lot of people still pirate shit, but I wouldn't be surprised that piracy went down if these affordable services extend to Portugal.
we have spotify already.
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Piracy
Jan 3, 2016 18:46:21 GMT
Post by Benjaman on Jan 3, 2016 18:46:21 GMT
im unsure if thread is supposed to be about our experiences, or the legality/morality of pirating
well i used to torrent a lot of shit, movies mostly but games sometimes. the games were mostly bc i didnt have a credit card and i would have probably paid $5 or whatever on steam for it if i literally had the ability without asking my parents. movies because i wanted to watch a bunch of them and i wasnt about to pay $20 a piece for a blu ray/dvd only to find out that the movie is boring. nowadays i feel the same about movies, i would keep torrenting but i dont want my housemates harassed if i do it at home and i literally cannot at work (that is, even if i really tried i also really dont want to be in trouble there)
as for whether it's OKAY- i find it odd that things you can literally copy and paste in less than a second should be restricted from being copied. its an unwinnable battle that maybe shouldnt even be won. i think it's a matter of balance between price and convenience- all other things being equal, i would pay for a movie if it wasnt so unrewarding (you pay a lot for a lackluster product, usually a disc in a plastic case with nothing more or extra and i have to order it online if i want it for a good price and wait for it to be here vs downloading a file quickly for free which is less features but no money)
for games i think its acceptable as a demo, i dont think theres ever been a game i pirated and really liked and then did not just buy afterward
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Piracy
Jan 3, 2016 20:09:40 GMT
Post by Assbong420 ~The Weeder~ on Jan 3, 2016 20:09:40 GMT
im unsure if thread is supposed to be about our experiences, or the legality/morality of pirating I feel like the ethos of the internet has changed with time and with that so should our relationship with piracy, since it's such a fundamental part of it. So in a sense, I'm asking about both, because I feel like this argument deserves to be refreshed.
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Piracy
Jan 3, 2016 20:30:46 GMT
Post by 410757864530 DEAD COPS on Jan 3, 2016 20:30:46 GMT
my stance hasn't changed much, i don't have much disposable income so ill always pirate something before buying it. but if i like it, i buy it when i can. this applies to almost everything except for relatively unknown/local bands who usually have stuff up on bandcamp for a dollar or for free, i try to support them as much as possible because it feels like im actually supporting the creators that way. i feel like this is what most people do especially with the extremely prevalent multiplayer aspects of games, i don't know many people that pirate things with no intent to buy them later, it just comes down to shit like when a game costs 60 dollars, people need to make absolutely sure they like it first
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Piracy
Jan 4, 2016 4:15:20 GMT
Post by t'tool on Jan 4, 2016 4:15:20 GMT
I don't think my opinion has changed. It's fine for a content creator to restrict and protect their own content and piracy is basically wrong. I still pirate anyway (movies and a bit of music), mostly because I'm poor and it's easy.
I don't see how pirating can ever be defeated on the internet. mp3s and files can be copied and spread so easily. Governments and corporations having a stranglehold on the tubes and cracking down on it by sending millions of fines is a weak solution.
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Piracy
Jan 4, 2016 4:40:38 GMT
Post by K-Man on Jan 4, 2016 4:40:38 GMT
yyeeeaaaAAAAARRRRRGGGHHhh
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Post by Assbong420 ~The Weeder~ on Jan 4, 2016 4:53:58 GMT
my stance hasn't changed much, i don't have much disposable income so ill always pirate something before buying it. but if i like it, i buy it when i can. this applies to almost everything except for relatively unknown/local bands who usually have stuff up on bandcamp for a dollar or for free, i try to support them as much as possible because it feels like im actually supporting the creators that way. i feel like this is what most people do especially with the extremely prevalent multiplayer aspects of games, i don't know many people that pirate things with no intent to buy them later, it just comes down to shit like when a game costs 60 dollars, people need to make absolutely sure they like it first See I feel this, but I have friends who while they share the stance in theory, in practice what I see is that they will pirate what they can (music and games mostly) and buy what they can't download (say diablo 3 and WoW). I do tell them it's lame of them to not buy some albums or games for th sake of it, but at the same time I understand that really that's it, it's for the sake of it, like you say buying the game is pretty much throwwing money at the developer because you already have the game itself. I can't really wrap my mind around that. On the one hand, I don't really care that they pirate (I really don't 99% of the time), on the other hand when the subject comes up I can't stop myself from criticising the attitude of just paying shit when you're forced to. This is a problem because this is coherent with the idea that restricting piracy incentivizes actually buying the product. So in a sense I'm ok with piracy but in another sense I am not. I really don't reconcile the two perspectives most of the time. I'm ok with what *I* do, but that doesn't translate well with how I deal with my friends on this subject.
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Post by Assbong420 ~The Weeder~ on Jan 4, 2016 4:55:37 GMT
yyeeeaaaAAAAARRRRRGGGHHhh happy new year
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Post by K-Man on Jan 4, 2016 5:07:32 GMT
same to you, daniel <3
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Piracy
Jan 4, 2016 13:05:08 GMT
Post by Patty O'Furniture on Jan 4, 2016 13:05:08 GMT
im sending this to the police >
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